Well,
Lee, I have read over your review a few times now, and I think
your critique is fair. There is much I can agree with you
on, but much I also feel the need to stand up for. I guess
I'll just go through it one part at a time.
First, I'm sorry you didn't like the opening scene but that
is definitely my favorite in the entire film. I think you
missed the mark here, because the old lady is not used to
be funny by cursing at her grandkids. If anything, she sets
the tone for the film to follow. The scene shows that she
is hip to Paul and Rob's world, and she's providing a window
to allow her grandchildren to explore this (obvious) fantasyland
with her. You seem to think we are using her strictly as an
exploitative punchline, which was certainly not my intention.
Also, I enjoy this scene so much because, even though the
characters are outrageous, the environment they are in is
so calm, tranquil, and cozy. It is indeed a direct contrast
to the absurdity of the film that is to follow. Those snowflakes
and the "Home Alone" music are in this scene for
a reason, my friend. It's because after this cozy little Christmas
Eve, chaos is about to ensue. I think you just missed the
point of the joke, but then again that may just be my fault
as a director.
Fair enough on your comments about the Jewish pool scene.
I would agree with you that Allen and Mark go way over-the-top
with their characters, and I blame myself for that. I think
that scene -- especially since it is the first time we see
Allen and Mark in the movie -- was in much need of a humor
barometer. I probably should have directed them to scale up
or down their energy level, and adjust the intensity of the
characters as the scene sees fit. To our credit, this was
the first scene we shot directly after Allen got off the plane
from LA in June, so most of us were pretty out of it. The
chemistry probably was off, not to mention all of us were
pretty out of it. It didn't help that the scene took an entirely
long day to shoot. AND the scene itself was much longer. I
think the tighter editing helps move it along, as the original
cut was pretty painful to sit through. And more offensive.
On The Don: I'm glad you enjoyed the costume, but again I
think you're missing the point with the locations he hangs
around. I don't understand why you call it a hole-in-the-wall
pool joint to begin with. Why is this? Because he's only playing
pool against one other extra? Or the fact he didn't have a
bunch of girls on his shoulders like he does in his wrap-up
scene? If the scene looks scaled down, it's only because we
wanted The Don to look scaled up. The scene is about HIM,
and his aura alone is supposed to entice the viewer. Maybe
we just failed in this sense, though. As for the Putt-Putt
course he plays miniature golf at, well, we all just thought
that would be funny. I'm sorry you did not. If anything, The
Don is a spoof of the numerous charismatic, larger-than-life
mentors found in an abundance of other comedy films. The miniature
golf OF COURSE is supposed to be cheesy. If you didn't think
that the first time out, then seeing The Don ride on the horsy
merry-go-round in the next scene should most certainly have
given that away.
There is not much I can say about Toodles. Either you like
him and find him funny, or you don't. There really is no middle
ground. And of course, we all knew that going in from the
beginning. I've had people come up to me many times saying
they thought Toodles was hilarious, while at the same time
others have told me they wanted to shoot him in the head.
Either way, I certainly do not blame Jake Warren for his performance.
He gave me exactly what I wanted. Now, to be fair, after seeing
"Hustled 2" many times now, I can easily say that
I wish I had told him to tone down the energy a bit in certain
scenes. But again, and even as you mention in your review,
it is obvious we are trying to be BIGGER than the original,
so I let the actors get BIGGER with their body language as
a result. And, also as you stated, perhaps bigger is not always
better. In some of Toodles' cases I would have to agree.
While I'm disappointed you found Angelina and Kirsten to be
the least successful characters in the movie, I'm even more
upset that you didn't enjoy their initial speech to Paul and
Rob. Of course it's SUPPOSED to be creepy, they play psycho
ex-girlfriends! I actually think this is Allen's best-written
scene in the movie. If anything, I'm disappointed in the pedestrian
way I shot it. Also I was let down that you did not mention
the performances by Gaby and Lauren. I thought they did a
fantastic job, balancing just the right amount of sweet, lovey-dovey
girlfriends with a sharp and painful mean streak, as the situations
called for it. I also thought Allen was brilliant for writing
the main bad guys to be vicious ex-girlfriends. How many of
us guys can't relate to that?
I see what you are saying about the man-hating lesbians with
deep voices, among many other stereotypes thrown into the
mix. But the "Hustled" films have ALWAYS embraced
character cliches. Sure, it's cheap humor, but it's also what
you should expect if you've seen the first film. And admittedly
the climax is a creepy scene. Interestingly, Allen and I argued
many times over how over-the-top the scene was written. The
scene is probably my least favorite in the entire film, simply
because I think the universe Paul and Rob inhabit becomes
TOO much of a cartoon. At least the previous unrealistic hustles
in the movie contained a hint of the real world. The climax,
however, is too out there, even for me. I do, however, think
Wil DeShazo was hilarious, and very bold for taking on such
a character. He made the entire cast and crew laugh numerous
times, and evidence of this can be found in the outtakes of
the closing credits.
I, too, find Dickless and Kip to be some of the funnier (and
better-written) characters in the film. In fact, the biggest
feedback I have received from people who have seen the movie
is how much they loved the character of Kip. I think an entire
movie about him would definitely be a stretch, but I'm glad
you found him humorous nonetheless. Matt is brilliant as Dickless,
and Allen was smart enough to realize this by expanding upon
his character in the first film and giving him more screen
time. However, as funny as the character may be, I AM glad
that Allen was keen enough to write him out of the movie early
on. That's why supporting characters can be so effective:
when they aren't used excessively, the humor stays fresher.
It's like they always say about the effectiveness of blood-splattered
horror films: Less is more. I think by shunning Dickless and
Kip away from too much of the spotlight, we as an audience
find them more welcome the times they do come in front of
the camera.
On that note, I can't help ya if you don't find Paul and Rob
humorous. Especially if that was your biggest problem with
the movie. These characters are simply extensions of the people
they played in the original, but probably with a bit more
bite. I would agree that they are more aggressive this time
out, and cockier as well. By this film they indeed have become
cartoons, since in the original they were still vulnerable
to certain other foes they came across. In "Hustled 2,"
nothing gets in their way, and they probably do have a bit
more of a mean streak. In two of their earlier scenes, for
example, they beat up both The Heckler and Dickless. This
is something that didn't always sit well with me from the
beginning, when I first read the script. I laughed at what
the characters were doing, but was wondering at the same time
if they were being a bit too mean-spirited. Yet the way Allen
sets up both The Heckler and Dickless, they're pretty hateable
supporting characters. Of course, we learn Dickless means
well later on down the road, but at the time, I think Paul
and Rob's actions are justified.
I'm not going to say much on how you feel that Allen writes
the Paul and Rob characters in a way that might fuel his real-life
ego. I'll let him take a shot at responding to that. But I
certainly disagree when you say that only people who know
other people in the film would have a chance at having a good
time while watching the movie. For one, the comment is way
too closed-minded. Comedy is subjective. It always will be.
I think you are a fine reviewer, but saying that people who
don't know us won't have a very good time viewing the film
is low, even for you. Yes, personally knowing the people who
compose our cast will ensure that some jokes will be heightened
more than the average audience member who hasn't got a clue
of the faces onscreen. You'll probably get more out of some
of the humor when you recognize a face during one of the insane
shenanigans going on in the movie. I think that is obvious.
But to say that's the only way you'll have a very good time
watching it is ridiculous. Tons of people who I have never
even met before or who have never seen an Old School film
(or aren't familiar with our casts, for that matter) have
expressed how much fun they had with the film. You yourself
even told me that you showed "Hustled 2" to a friend
who didn't know a single one of us, and claimed he had a blast.
You are right in one respect: we DID make this movie for a
certain audience. And I sincerely believe that, for this particular
audience, we delivered. They got what they expected and had
a good time. In a way it IS a private party. HOWEVER, to close
off others from joining in on the fun, simply because they
don't know us, is a very premature statement. It may be a
private party, but anyone is welcome to join.
So yeah, we make fun of the audience in The Heckler's scene.
It's a cheap shot, but at the same time I think the audience
is in on the joke. If anything, I think they're aware enough
that we're making a silly movie and that our talents extend
beyond this. In a sense, all of us as filmmakers are saying,
"Hey, everyone, look! This movie is gonna be really stupid,
we all know that! But let's have a good time anyway!"
Again, I think this is you reading too deep into something
that goes beyond our intentions of the joke.
I'm glad you enjoyed the way the film was shot and produced.
You may be right. It might be too well-made for the material.
But just because Allen's script is more juvenile than other
things he has written in the past (or will write, for that
matter) doesn't mean that we should back away from producing
the best-looking picture we can make. If someone doesn't enjoy
the film, fine. But please acknowledge that, at the very least,
the entire production is an exercise of our filmmaking. We're
not gonna half-ass "Hustled 2" just because it won't
win any awards or film festivals. With EVERY project we do,
we always strive to do a better job in all aspects of filmmaking.
Otherwise, what's the point of doing it? We tackle every single
project as its own, and work our asses off to come out with
a final result that we are all pleased in. Some obviously
turn out better than others, but at least we are trying and
growing.
Which brings me to my last point, where you encourage us to
grow as artists. Thank you. That's what we're trying to do.
Yes, "Hustled 2" was made as a thank-you note to
a specific audience. It was meant to be nothing more than
that, and a good time. As filmmakers, I think we did indeed
need to have a little fun on a movie set and let it out of
our systems. It is behind us now, and we will move on. Finally,
we appreciate your support and anticipation for what we have
in store for the future.
- Brad
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